I find it recreational to read back and forth on the discussion of BBS and several of the studies that have been mentioned. I have found that the out fashion get out and talk with people and listen to them before the accident happens is by far the best approach I have had. I can use data from my many years as a safety professional and tell you that 50% of my accidents are caused by people in their job for less than 1 year. I can also sight many years when 85% or more of the accident incurred were because of unsafe acts.

My comment is unless we listen to the people no program is 100% tried and true unless the people's input is added to the equations as the weighted factor and more emphasis is made to listen and act responsibly to what we hear. Example If the guardrail is broken then get it fixed so an unsafe act does not happen. By getting the people filly engaged in I can make a difference in my safety and the safety of my fellow workers. It speaks volumes to reduction in accident and people who feel part of the solution to having a robust safety program.

Do I use a little of both of the discussion yes I do but I spend my time with the people on the floor to resolve potential accidents from happening.

George Crosby
EH&S Engineer
North Carolina

I have to disagree with you rant against Mr. Quilley and what you interpreted (once again)on what somebody stated. To reiterate what he was saying, and I am a firm believer as to what he has taught me and I have witnessed myself through this shift towards achieving BBS, that without the engagement of your employees this "cultural shift" will never, ever, ever happen. Once your employees are engaged in the shift and they determine you are not doing safety at them, rather they are doing safety for themselves, then that's when there is success.

Samuel ELKINS
Strategic HSE Systems